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Post by Crossfire Chaos on Dec 8, 2006 0:42:35 GMT -5
lol, sorry, fixed now.
I copied my Gyarados thread and forgot to delete all the unneeded stuff. So I'm just stating there will be no branch evo.
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Post by bubz on Jan 13, 2007 15:35:41 GMT -5
Okay, I just read over all this stuff, so if I talk about some stuff that's really old, and it's a big post, forgive me.
How about a Dotaitos with a city-type structure on it's back for a grass/steel type?
The narwhal and Ariados pokes look awesome.
Can we evolve Ledian also? I have an idea for a split evolution. Ledian A would evolve into a Levitating Bug/Psychic alien-thing, while Ledian B could evolve into a Pure Bug type that looks sort of like an alien from Aliens. The fkoating guy would have really high Special attack/defense, while the alien would have really high Attack/defense. I'll post my tragic attempts to draw them later.
Could we have a Mewthree? The plot I'm thinking of would have Mewthree as the bad guy, but it could really be made into any really strong/smart poke. Heck, we could even use Mewtwo if you wanted.
I think Ice and Poison should be strong against water.
If we have starters, what type would they be? the normal fire/grass/water, or something weird, like fighting/psychic/dark or electric/flying/ground?
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Post by casmat on Jan 13, 2007 19:07:24 GMT -5
Hey np talking about old stuff.
Mewthree I think is probably no. It turns out that Mewthree is extremely overused in things like this, and would tunr out looking very unoriginal, no offense.
Dotaitos with a city on its back would look pretty cool, but it would make more sense as Ground Steel since it would then be lacking the tree. Even then, Dotaitos inclusion is still pending.
Ledian alt hmmm? Guess I'll wait and see.
I think most have had thoughts about Poison being SE and Ice being at leat nuetral on Water, and that brings up the point of having a type chart discussion.
I think we will probably have starters, and we had the idea of Flying/Fighting/Rock.
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Post by Zack on Jan 13, 2007 19:36:17 GMT -5
Hey np talking about old stuff. In fact talking about old stuff is good since no one reads this thread xD k Like hell he's pending, he's a badass motherfucker. Making the sprite for the city is gonna be rough, and then we also do not have "cities" like skyscrapers. Idea is wonderful though. Possibly Poison>Water, Ice=Water is a maybe. The starters are still going to be Fire/Water/Grass though.
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Post by bubz on Jan 13, 2007 19:41:55 GMT -5
Flying/Fighting/Rock sounds cool. But what would they be like? All I can think of for them is a rock-type armadillo. I'm clueless on the fighting one(maybe flying/rock/ice instead?), and all I can think of for flying is a flying fox, which sounds lame.
I'm cool with Mewthree, I only recently got back in to pokemon(my little sister got me hooked again), so I'm sort of out of the loop. I just thought "what would make a realy powerful poke-villian" and remembered all those really bizarre pokemon I read you could get in RBY, like Pikablu, Crystal Onix, and Mewthree.
Speaking of that, there should be a place in the game where you're going to a boat, but if you surf on the water instead and go left, you'll get to a field full of trucks, and then if you knock a truck that says "YO" over with Strength, Mew will appear. That's how they said you could catch Mew back in the day.
We should evolve Dunsparce into a giant snake with wings and a huge drill for a tail.
Should we have a legendary trio?
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Post by casmat on Jan 13, 2007 21:00:26 GMT -5
Well I guess khold has other plans with the starter trio Hey cool we get Dotaitos Funny you mention a dunsparce evo because I already had thoughts of a Dunsparce evo: I think Legendary trio is definately a yes.
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Post by bubz on Jan 13, 2007 21:36:19 GMT -5
That Dunsparce evo is pretty cool, a lot like I pictured mine to be. The only real difference is yours keeps the color(mine was orange and grey) and having 4 small wings instead of 2 big ones.
I thought about it for a while, and I think I have Steel Dotaitos figured out. He's covered in armor, cannons, and whatnot, maybe a skyscraper instead of a tree on his back, maybe a stripe that looks like a road, etc. Then, at the top of all this armor, there sits a flower, pushing it's way through solid steel to find the sun. Pretty cool, eh?
For the starters, they should be different. I've noticed a pattern with the starters:
Fire type: Fast, sweeper-ish pokemon Grass type: tankish, learns healing moves, big-sized(the only exception is Sceptile, who is mainly used for subseeding anyway.) Water- usually the guy that gets shafted, always the slowest, most of their moves run off their weaker attacking stat.
Maybe the water could be something really fast and sweep-oriented, like an actually good Floatsel. The fire one could tank(it'd have to either get a cool secondary type or Levitate to really tank), and the grass one could be a balanced, mixed attacking-ish guy.
Houndoom should evolve into Cereberus. It's perfect. Also, I don't remember where I read it, but whoever said there should be an alternate Ghost/Ground evo for Cubone is a genius.
Since we're going to have dungeons, jobs, and generally a much deeper main game, should we even bother with contests? I don't have any ADV games, so I really don't know what they're like, but I always thought they seemed a little goofy.
What could the legendary trio be? They've done birds, dogs, golems, and fairies...how about lizards?
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Post by GreatLiver on Jan 15, 2007 13:32:36 GMT -5
Yeah we've already got the trio as far as I know and they play a pretty big role in the plot. THey're all part dragon, but not your normal scales and wings dragon. THey're gonna be an electric goat, a fire griffin, and either ice or water wolf.
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Post by Crossfire Chaos on Jan 15, 2007 17:34:07 GMT -5
see the thing is fire can never be the tank, ever because of the every-single-pokemon-can-learn-at-some-point move called earthquake. As long as everyone can use it and the opponent doesn't even need to switch to kill a fire type they will never be able to be tanks.
and weren't we thinking of a Chinese new year based set of legends?
Also poison>water? no, it's poisoned/debuffed status side effects makes it's moves useful enough.
also flying is beaten by both ice and rock so that's a bad trio. Flying/Fighting/Ice or Rock, seems like a good trio though.
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Post by cock_block on Jan 16, 2007 0:00:22 GMT -5
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Why not just make a pure fire type with Levitate then? Give it Will-O-Wisp and see who comes a knocking.
Poison is being argued that it should SE on Water because in actual life, biology, etc, isolated aquatic ecosystems are extremely frail in the face of toxins because disease, etc can spread through it so easily.
Plus, Poison needs to be able to do something relevant.
Poison is a horrible type. It has no draws. Toxic doesn't count because everything and its mother learns it (unless Khold becomes a Toxic-Nazi) and nothing ever packs its offensive options unless it actually has nothing better. Metagross once upon a time used Sludge Bomb for Celebi but then people realized it was dumb because Rock Slide 2HKOs Zapdos and the world and Meteor Miss still 2HKOed Celebi making it redundant. The only reason Weezing uses it is because it's a mediocre damaging move with STAB.
As a type it hits nothing useful so Sludge Bomb is rather pointless 90% of the time and Poison's only other mediocre (or decent, but that sounds too optimistic) move is learned by everything in the fucking game. It gets few meaningful resistances, aside from Fighting (and Bug makes it okay for Heracross counters but not enough poisons have the defense to be adequate Hera counters anyways so the point is moot) and its list of weaknesses include the mighty and powerful Earthquake.
Poison is a mediocre side effect unless the opponent is weak to Sandstorm and there's one blowing. Go figure 1/2 of poison is negated by Leftovers...
Poison is the worst if not one of the worst types. It doesn't do anything defensively, it doesn't do anything offensively and its few good moves are ridiculously generic and most stuff wouldn't care if they lost it unless it's their STAB move or something.
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Post by Zack on Jan 18, 2007 20:49:55 GMT -5
Bulbasaur, Poochama, and Cyndaquil I think are going to be the starters in this game.
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Post by Crossfire Chaos on Jan 19, 2007 22:03:14 GMT -5
Didn't you say we'd have access to all of the starters?
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Post by Zack on Jan 19, 2007 23:58:03 GMT -5
Just not at the beginning of the game.
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Post by GreatLiver on Jan 25, 2007 19:56:49 GMT -5
I have a question about what pokemon we're using. What pokemon that we actually made before the whole crisis over the summer are we using, or the pokemon that were like "created" with the release of DP, as in like how we had Strangela but then Mojanbo came out in gen 4?
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Post by Zack on Jan 25, 2007 22:21:49 GMT -5
I think we'll just use the DP evolutions if they matched a Pokemon we were making. It saves a lot of work.
As far as Poison goes, I think DH should have a look at the new Poison moves...
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Post by RicePigeonKKM on Jan 28, 2007 2:15:10 GMT -5
Woot, I'm back bitches! Haven't thought of much but here's what I've come up with during my leave (no learnsets yet): Wesnat Species: Gnat Trait(s): Swarm/Bite Drain* Evolution Chain:Wesnat -(Lv. 20)> Nilekito Height: 0'10" Weight: 0.7 lbs. Gender Ratio: 50% Male / 50% Female Egg Group: Bug Color: (undecided) Catch Rate: 255 Base Happiness: 70 Growth Group: Fast Pokedex: To the naked eye, its exact image is unclear as it rarely stays still. This makes it very easy for Wesnat to bite its victims. Base Stats: HP: 40 (221-284) ATK: 70 (176-239) DEF: 30 (96-159) Spd: 80 (196-259) SAT: 15 (66-129) SDF: 30 (96-159) Total: 265 Nilekito Species: Mosquito Trait(s): Swarm/Bite Drain* Evolution Chain:Wesnat -(Lv. 20)> Nilekito Height: 1'05" Weight: 1.0 lbs. Gender Ratio: 50% Male / 50% Female Egg Group: Bug Color: (undecided) Catch Rate: 90 Base Happiness: 70 Growth Group: Fast Pokedex: Nilekito has gained notorious reputation for swooping in on its prey and scathing the victim's skin in a single move. This tactic helps it to survive on any nutrients in the prey's bloodstream. Base Stats: HP: 60 (261-324) ATK: 90 (216-279) DEF: 50 (136-199) Spd: 110 (256-319) SAT: 30 (96-159) SDF: 50 (136-199) Total: 390 Termilion Species: Termite Trait(s): Swarm/Flame Body Evolution Chain:Termilion -(Lv. 20)> Antlimite Height: 1'07" Weight: 23.7 lbs. Gender Ratio: 50% Male / 50% Female Egg Group: Bug/Monster Color: (undecided) Catch Rate: 255 Base Happiness: 70 Growth Group: Fast Pokedex: Often the target of pest extermination, a single Termilion can destroy a single 2-story house in a day. Base Stats: HP: 45 (231-294) ATK: 80 (196-259) DEF: 35 (106-169) Spd: 20 (76-139) SAT: 30 (96-159) SDF: 40 (116-179) Total: 250 Antlimite Species: Antlion Trait(s): Swarm/Flame Body Evolution Chain:Termilion -(Lv. 20)> Antlimite Height: 3'09" Weight: 93.0 lbs. Gender Ratio: 50% Male / 50% Female Egg Group: Bug/Monster Color: (undecided) Catch Rate: 90 Base Happiness: 70 Growth Group: Fast Pokedex: A fully grown Termilion will often develop the ability to ignite whatever it bites. Because of this, Antlimite's preference for wood has caused numerous house fires. Base Stats: HP: 75 (291-354) ATK: 110 (256-319) DEF: 65 (166-229) Spd: 30 (96-159) SAT: 50 (136-199) SDF: 60 (156-219) Total: 390 Trait: Bite Drain Description: Heals self when making contact with foe Effect: When Pokemon with this trait uses a contact move, the user heals itself of 1/4 of the damage dealt. Learned by: Zubat, Golbat, Crobat, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Wesnat, Nilekito
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Post by casmat on Jan 28, 2007 10:35:36 GMT -5
HOLY SHIT KKM I HAD THE EXACT SAME IDEA OF A MOSQUITO except I thought bug/poison woud be a better type... and I thought it should evolve from a fly instead of a gnat... would make a good starter bug IMO.. if we want one...
The reason I hadn't posted it yet was because of the types bug/flying and bug/poison being so overused....
Just as well, khold has mentioned many times that he wanted to make a fire ant bug/fire pokemon, and I (as well as someone else) had the idea of making a bombadier beetle bug/fire
I actually drew a two stage pokemon that goes from a termite/fire ant to a bombadier beetle...
Bite Drain is pretty cool, but it doesn't make sense on Sharpedo...
PS the Flygon line is already the ant-lion representative, and Venonat... need I say more?
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Post by CyberMewtwo on Feb 1, 2007 13:06:58 GMT -5
bug poison for a mosquito..... o gawd. that would SOOOO suck if it was IRL XD
yellow fever for everyone! woot! XD
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Post by ITklown on Feb 4, 2007 13:58:17 GMT -5
The termite Pokemon should be Bug/Ground in my opinion, because then it wouldn't suffer from the horrid 4x Rock weakness as most starter bugs and it would actually be somewhat usable. Also, both might need little stat-ups.
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Post by casmat on Feb 5, 2007 22:19:51 GMT -5
I know Termite wants Bug Ground, but it was really more of a fire ant... hmmm..... You know, I suddenly want to scratch my idea of a Bombadier Beetle and make a termite that evolves into a queen Termite with a termite mound on her back..... but only if female of course (ala the DP Bees)
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Post by ITklown on Feb 6, 2007 10:15:46 GMT -5
I know Termite want's Bug Ground, but it was really more of a fire ant... hmmm..... You know, I suddenly want to scratch my idea of a Bombadier Beetle and make a termite that evolves into a queen Termite with a termite mound on her back..... but only if female of course (ala the DP Bees) That sounds pretty awesome. Beequeen vs. Beemite? : O
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Post by CyberMewtwo on Feb 17, 2007 23:55:02 GMT -5
hmmm.... what about more gender related pokemon? guys = bee drones evolve into wasps then into militant bees (idk) while girls = drones evolve into egg carriors/caretakers and then finally queen?
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Post by ITklown on Feb 18, 2007 9:42:59 GMT -5
hmmm.... what about more gender related pokemon? guys = bee drones evolve into wasps then into militant bees (idk) while girls = drones evolve into egg carriors/caretakers and then finally queen? That would be sort of redundant since DP already introduced Mitsuhoney and Beequeen, so we might want to implement that idea over to the termites KKM mentioned.
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Post by casmat on Feb 18, 2007 17:00:25 GMT -5
So ummm...... I drew a fly and a mosquito... will show once I color them n' stuff..... also, electric eels are a good unexplored idea I think.... static trait, high offensive, low defensive....... we would just have to be careful not to make him too similar to this guy: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Telefang.jpg...or would we?
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Post by gun6 on Feb 18, 2007 22:11:12 GMT -5
That doesn't look like an electric eel anyways, so making something that looks different shouldn't be that difficult. Also, that might lead some complete retards to think that we're somehow related to those scams on EBay and they'll flame our ass or something.
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