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Post by Zack on Sept 5, 2006 22:45:22 GMT -5
The flower froggy-dinosaur thing got a big boost, a defensive one at that. Trading Hidden Power (which was only really used for HP: Fire/Electric/Grass) for two great traits and a support move helped. Venusaur: Added move Stun Spore. Changed Trait in slot 1 to Effect Spore. Changed Trait in slot 2 to Thick Fat. Cannot have moves Leech Seed and Synthesis at the same time. Cannot have moves Sleep Powder and Leech Seed at the same time. Cannot have move Hidden Power. Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat EVs: 204 HP / 40 Atk / 112 Def / 154 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Leech Seed - Sludge Bomb - Stun Spore - Substitute Fire Blast/Ice Beam aren't enough to break the Sub unless the Special Attack is at or above 300. Seed things, Paralyze things, stall out. Hopefully you won't run into a Steel and/or Ground when you have to be offensive. Works well with Spikes support. Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat/Effect Spore EVs: 204 HP / 40 Atk / 82 Def / 184 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Curse - Leech Seed/Sleep Powder - Sludge Bomb - Earthquake Offensive Venu. Thick Fat is preferred to last longer, but it's always fun when your opponent gets put to sleep or burned when they try to physically take out your Venu. Venusaur (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 108 Def / 96 SDef Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Leech Seed - Sludge Bomb - Swords Dance - Toxic Toxic and Leech Seed can force switches, maybe not as good as subseed with prz, but now you also have the option to do a Sword Danced Sludge Bomb.
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Post by tailschao on Sept 6, 2006 11:02:26 GMT -5
imo sleep powder should be an option over leech seed in the second set.
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Post by Zack on Sept 6, 2006 11:23:17 GMT -5
Good call.
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Post by Okashi on Sept 6, 2006 14:32:29 GMT -5
I use:
Venusaur (F) @ Salac Berry/Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat EVs: 72 HP / 80 Atk / 104 Spd / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Sleep Powder - Sludge Bomb - Swords Dance
I try to switch it in on a water poke that can't hurt it much, sleep powder something, then sd. Salac is for getting a boost, and lefties is for recovery.
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Post by pidgeot79 on Sept 6, 2006 23:17:08 GMT -5
I'm using this:
Venusaur (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Thick Fat EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 108 Def / 96 SDef Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Leech Seed - Sludge Bomb - Swords Dance - Toxic
Toxic and Leech Seed can force switches, maybe not as good as subseed with prz, but now you also have the option to do a Sword Danced Sludge Bomb.
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Post by cock_block on Jan 25, 2007 16:32:22 GMT -5
VENUSAUR - THICK FAT ~ Sleep Powder ~ Stun Spore ~ Leech Seed ~ Sludge Bomb @ Leftovers
His standard on the new modserver imo. He doesn't have enough to work with Calm Mind to make the setup worthwhile. Besides... you'd be surprised how fast Blastoise dies if he gets poisoned and seeded with a sandstream blowing (did you hear me suggest you use this guy with TTar and Sandslash to absorb waters and provide a reason to make switches? I didn't think so either).
Actually... the new modserver's Venusaur plays really well with Sandslash and TTar since it basically absorbs every water type in the game other than Gyarados and he's easy to deal with anyways.
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